{"id":665,"date":"2019-06-24T02:02:23","date_gmt":"2019-06-24T06:02:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/london-to-paris.winchcombe.org\/?page_id=665"},"modified":"2020-06-01T08:50:01","modified_gmt":"2020-06-01T12:50:01","slug":"how-to-carry-all-the-luggage","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/london-to-paris.winchcombe.org\/index.php\/luggage-carrying-it\/how-to-carry-all-the-luggage\/","title":{"rendered":"How to carry all the luggage"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Everyone I&#8217;ve ever ridden to Paris with &#8211; 45 people &#8211; has used panniers. The thought of using a backpack with 4-6kg on your back for 200 miles makes me wince. With panniers, when you&#8217;re rolling you won&#8217;t feel they&#8217;re there, until you hit a hill.<br \/>\nOn this page I&#8217;ll go through pannier racks and pannier bags.<\/p>\n<h3>Can you fit a pannier rack to your non-carbon bike?<\/h3>\n<p>I&#8217;ve got a non-carbon bike with pannier mounting points it&#8217;s easy to fit a standard rack.<br \/>\nIf you&#8217;ve got a non-carbon bike without pannier mounting points you can buy a <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.co.uk\/Avenir-AMD205-Mounting-Clip-Black\/dp\/B0044YCBN2\/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=pannier+rack+p-clips&#038;qid=1561406601&#038;s=sports&#038;sr=1-2\">seat post rack mount collar<\/a>, plus buy some <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.co.uk\/Tortec-P-Clips\/dp\/B019I5EFVW\/ref=cts_sp_1_vtp\">p-clips<\/a> for the lower mounting points.<\/p>\n<h3>Can you fit a pannier rack to your carbon bike?<\/h3>\n<p>If you&#8217;ve got a carbon bike you still can do it, but really you need to decide what you&#8217;re comfortable doing.<br \/>\nYou should be able to fit a seatpost collar and you may feel comfortable using padded &#8216;p-clips&#8217; at the bottom.<br \/>\nIf not then there are racks which mount onto your rear wheel&#8217;s axle which along with a seatpost collar should be okay.<br \/>\nAlternatively there&#8217;s <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.co.uk\/Avenir-Pioneer-Urban-Alloy-Carrier\/dp\/B000RW774S\/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=pannier+rack+carbon&#038;qid=1561406676&#038;s=sports&#038;sr=1-3\">racks which mount around the seatpost and extend backwards<\/a>. I doubt this is suitable for a carbon seatpost though, so you may need to buy a non-carbon seatpost.<br \/>\nAnother option is to get a rack which can be fitted on to the Quick Release Skewer, like the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.halfords.com\/cycling\/bike-accessories\/bike-pannier-racks\/axiom-journey-uni-fit-mk-3-aluminium-rear-pannier-rack\">Axiom Journey Uni-fit Mk3 from Halfords<\/a>.<br \/>\nIf in doubt check with your local bike shop.<\/p>\n<h3>Can you fit a pannier rack to a bike with disc brakes?<\/h3>\n<p>You can either go for a seatpost mounted rack, or get a <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.co.uk\/Ibera-Bike-Rack-Frame-Mounted-Adjustable\/dp\/B00AA8GFSI\/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?keywords=pannier+rack+carbon+axle&#038;qid=1561406757&#038;s=sports&#038;sr=1-1-fkmr1\">pannier rack with extended mount points<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/tortec-velocity-rack-291x300.png\" alt=\"tortec velocity rack\" width=\"150\" class=\"alignright\" \/><\/p>\n<h3 style=\"margin-top:-40px;\">My pannier rack<\/h3>\n<p>With a non-carbon bike which has mounting points I&#8217;ve got the easiest option, however I don&#8217;t much care to having to take my pannier rack on and off and I don&#8217;t want to be riding around with an ugly rack on the back of the bike.<br \/>\nSo I&#8217;ve got one of these <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.co.uk\/Tortec-Velocity-Rear-Rack\/dp\/B019I5E46S\">Tortec Velocity<\/a> racks which stays on all year round.<\/p>\n<div style=\"height:20px\">&#160;<\/div>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/homepage_tripreports.jpg\" width=\"300\" class=\"alignright\"><\/p>\n<h3 style=\"margin-top:-40px;\">Pannier bags<\/h3>\n<p>There&#8217;s many different types of pannier bags, all seem to work well, so it&#8217;s a question of how much stuff you plan to take. The <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/index.php\/luggage-carrying-it\/what-to-take\/\">&#8216;What to take&#8217;<\/a> page shows the stuff I take, so take a look at that in conjunction with this page.<br \/>\nNOTE: whatever you buy make sure it&#8217;s either completely waterproof, or it has a cover, or you buy one. Forecasts can change a lot in four days.<br \/>\nYou should easily be able to fit all your gear in a 40 litre pannier bag\/set, like the ones in the picture on the right, my first set from 2015. Or possibly even a 20 litre pannier bag, see below.<\/p>\n<h3>My current pannier bags<\/h3>\n<p>After two rides to Paris my original set died, a wiggle going up a hill in 2015 saw them move and get caught in my wheel, which tore one bit leaving a gaping hole.<br \/>\nCurrently I have a set of <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.co.uk\/EIGO-PANNIERS-FRONT-BLACK-LARGE\/dp\/B07GH21HY2\/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?keywords=eigo+pannier+set&#038;qid=1561358112&#038;s=automotive&#038;sr=1-1-fkmr0\">Eigo 42 Litre Panniers<\/a> which work much better and are very useful for commuting. Cost me \u00a335 on eBay and come with waterproof covers already zipped into a pouch, so less faffing.<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/eigo-panniers.png\" alt=\"eigo panniers\" width=\"511\" height=\"326\" class=\"aligncenter\" \/><\/p>\n<p>However, with this year&#8217;s kit packing I seem to managed to pack everything in one!<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/only-one-pannier.jpg\" alt=\"only one pannier\" width=\"450\" height=\"695\" class=\"aligncenter\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Everyone I&#8217;ve ever ridden to Paris with &#8211; 45 people &#8211; has used panniers. 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